Tuesday, June 8, 2010
URBAN LOUSY @ BERLIN 18th JuNE – 21th JuNE CIRCUS CHARIVARI
Monday, June 7, 2010
URBAN LOUSY @ BERLIN 18th JuNE – 21th JuNE CIRCUS CHARIVARI
URBAN LOUSY
URBAN JEALOUSY ”INDEPENDENT ,DEPENDENT & PENDENT RESTIVAL “
@ BERLIN 18th JUNE – 21th JUNE CIRCUS CHARIVARI http://www.circuscharivari.de/index.php?option=com_content&view=category&layout=blog&id=48&Itemid=76
Its eyes turned green with jealousy, our path it crossed. That green-eyed thing, market of arts as it was disguised, said, “You are mine”, and then we fled. It wanted us as a trophy wife for a poseur’s call, a mistress on the fetishist institution’s hall, and we fled. It was a roaming biennial, a different love story we enjoyed. Landing from Istanbul to Berlin and Belgrade, ours was not the only path for sure, on which its green-eyes dawned. Once upon a time, and under a desiring gaze, freak is the one the green-eyed thing looked out; it was a duty call. For, on the outskirts of the circus and the fair, exoticism is the freak’s license; he was set out for a stroll. If a connoisseur was willing to pay for a glance, the freak was tolerated to get out, within the limits of the wall. Often the freak was strong enough, then opened an arena, and he was let out, as long as the patrons did not appall. When the patrons asked for entertainment, to their table came the freak, allowed to sit out, but not for hospitality at all. The creatures to be moved out, boot out, walled out, put out; they are called freaks, the subject we address with the words below. Take the freak as the scary monster, the creepy creature, anyone unusual, in his physical appearance or patterns of behavior. Freakiness is in the eyes of the beholder, may he be the patron or the connoisseur, guarded by eyes so green, and up above. New rules of inclusion and exclusion are set in the city; gentrification and security are the themes that blink on the shiny screen, hung on the city’s door. In today’s cityscape, the connoisseur is after exchanging a glance, a glance that would maximize his gain, make him want more and more again. For the green-eyed thing, this is the sign of the times, today’s ultimate claim. As the search for gain lands him on urban rent, appropriating the place the freak lives in becomes the connoisseur’s aim. The connoisseur is taken over by the green-eyed thing, to say it once again. Read jealousy as greed, the connoisseur yearns to be the patron; green-eyes flare the same. Asking for more, the greedy displaces us, but not as a whole. First he targets the freak, questions what the freak is doing in this hole. “Get the hell out of here” says his inner voice. He whispers sweet words, but then comes an iron fist, banging on the freak’s door. He announces: “These freaks, aren’t they the criminals, threats, enemies? We have to get rid of them once and for all.” He demands stamps on ass, chips in arms, and says: “We can mop them out behind walls and barbed wires, outside the frontiers of our hall. Isn’t this the most secure and efficient of it all?” Gentrification, regeneration, sustainability is the catch phrase; the greedy is the connoisseur, the standard-bearer of this call. That green-eyed thing, it fixes the desiring gaze on them again.
The greedy is able to reconstruct the freak, searching to maximize his gain. There is the exotic, the gifted, the beautiful among the freak, why bother the slain. He takes the talent, exhibits the gift, embodies the beauty, the genie, whatever the freak has as for a peculiarity; this is his optimistic claim. “Enjo' ? urbanlousy.com http:>http://urbanlousy.com/"> style="font-size:100%;">http://urbanlousy.com
Sanat piyasası “ya benimsin, ya toprağın” diyordu, biz de kaçtık. Bir para babasına eş(ya) olmamak için kaçtık, sanat aşığı kurumsal yapılara metres olmamak için kaçtık. Yaptığımız Gezici Bienal başka bir aşk hikayesiydi. Istanbul’dan Berlin’e oradan Belgrad a konduk . Bir kentten bir kente konarken, tek kıskanılan biz değildik zaten.Hilkat garibeleri, ucubeler vardı mesela. Çoğunluğu mahlukattan sayılır, kenara köşeye tıkılır, görünmesin diye etrafı sarılır, görünenin kafası taşla yarılırdı. Yeterince egzotikse bu hilkat garibesi, kenarda durmak için izinli sayılırdı. Birisi bi’bakıp çıkmak için para sayardı ya, sirkin panayırın köşesinde, ona müsamaha tanınırdı. Yeterince kuvvetliyse mahluk, arenaya salınırdı. Muktedirleri eğlendirdiği sürece, ucubeye yer ayrılırdı. Meraklısı kıskanır mıydı hilkat garibesini? Ucubede iktidar sahibine ait ne vardı?Bugünün kentinin meraklısı da bi’bakıp çıkıp, kar etmenin peşinde. Bugünün kentinde de meraklısı, iktidar derdinde. Yeri geldiğinde, gözü garibenin durduğu yerin ta kendisinde. Bugünün kentinde büyük paralar araziden kazanılırken, iktidar derdindeki, hinoğlu hin, kıskançlığının kökü açgözlülüğünde.Açgözlü, paraya para dememek için, herkesi yerinden etme işinde. Mesela o ucubenin ne işi var ki o kadar değerli yerde? “Gitsinler bunlar buradan” derken çeşitli yollara baş vurulmakta , gerektiğinde güç kullanılmakta, “… bunlar suçludur, düşmandır, tehdittir” de işin bahanesi olmakta. kıçına bir damga basıp, kolluna bir çip takıp, en etkin en ucuz yöntemle, uzağa atılması, duvarlar, teller ardına koyulması gerekmekte. Mekanın ancak öylece mutenalaşacağı, kentin ancak öylece yenileneceği ve hayatın da ancak öylece sürdürülebilir olacağı söylenmekte.Aynı zamanda açgözlü, paraya para dememek için, onları yeniden inşa etmenin de derdinde. Varsa bir egzotiği, yeteneklisi, güzeli, onun da becerisini alıp satmanın, teşhire koymanın, özelliğini, güzelliğini kendi bedenine yamamanın peşinde. Kendi yarattğı frankeştayn ile köprü ve diyalog işinde. Zaten icap ettiğinde devşirme mahlukları itinayla yaratma, pazarlama, olmadı piyasasını bizzat kurma yeteneğinde.Piyasada bir ederin yoksa, kent seni istememekte .Pazarlanamazlık üstü kuruntulu düzene gıcık gitme ihtimalin, altıncı parmağının, üçüncü gözünün, kuyruğunun, boynuzun yerine geçmekte. Fişlenme, şişlenme, kıçına damga, koluna bir çip, en ucuzundan, en etkininden defedilme, hapsedilme, defnedilme ihtimali senin önüne de gelmekte.Kentin açgözlü yeni efendileri “güvenlik… güvenlik…” diye inlemekte. Piyasa tanrısı, her günü güvenlik bayramından sayıp, kurban istemekte.Peki, eski haritaların yeni ejderhalarının, mahluklarının, dinozorlarının, ucubelerinin, hilkat garibelerinin ne yapması gerekmekte? Biz ne bilelim…Bi’düşününce, kent berbat, efendileri kıskanç. Derdimiz kıskançlığa yüz vermeyip, kaçak noktaları kovalamak ya, kaçak noktamız, yeri geldiğinde kentten daha berbat olmaktan çekinmemekte, bu arada, piyasaya götü kaptırmamaya, güvenliğe kurban gitmemeye , sermayenin dekoratif unsuru olmamaya itina etmekte. Ne diyelim…Kendi haritalarımızın mahlukları olmaya, kendi sözümüzü bağımsız söylemeye, bir araya gelmeye ve beş benzemez istikamete dağılmaya devam edelim.
URBAN LOUSY
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” INDEPENDENT ,DEPENDENT & PENDENT RESTIVAL “
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Thursday, June 3, 2010
URBAN LOUSY @ BERLIN 18th JuNE – 21th JuNE CIRCUS CHARIVARI
URBAN LOUSY
http://urbanlousy.com/
URBAN LOUSY ” INDEPENDENT ,DEPENDENT & PENDENT RESTIVAL “
@ BERLIN 18th JuNE – 21th JuNE CIRCUS CHARIVARI
http://www.circuscharivari.de/index.php?option=com_content&view=category&layout=blog&id=48&Itemid=76
Its eyes turned green with jealousy, our path it crossed. That green-eyed thing, market of arts as it was disguised, said, “You are mine”, and then we fled. It wanted us as a trophy wife for a poseur’s call, a mistress on the fetishist institution’s hall, and we fled. It was a roaming biennial, a different love story we enjoyed. Landing from Istanbul to Berlin and Belgrade, ours was not the only path for sure, on which its green-eyes dawned. Once upon a time, and under a desiring gaze, freak is the one the green-eyed thing looked out; it was a duty call. For, on the outskirts of the circus and the fair, exoticism is the freak’s license; he was set out for a stroll. If a connoisseur was willing to pay for a glance, the freak was tolerated to get out, within the limits of the wall. Often the freak was strong enough, then opened an arena, and he was let out, as long as the patrons did not appall. When the patrons asked for entertainment, to their table came the freak, allowed to sit out, but not for hospitality at all. The creatures to be moved out, boot out, walled out, put out; they are called freaks, the subject we address with the words below. Take the freak as the scary monster, the creepy creature, anyone unusual, in his physical appearance or patterns of behavior. Freakiness is in the eyes of the beholder, may he be the patron or the connoisseur, guarded by eyes so green, and up above. New rules of inclusion and exclusion are set in the city; gentrification and security are the themes that blink on the shiny screen, hung on the city’s door. In today’s cityscape, the connoisseur is after exchanging a glance, a glance that would maximize his gain, make him want more and more again. For the green-eyed thing, this is the sign of the times, today’s ultimate claim. As the search for gain lands him on urban rent, appropriating the place the freak lives in becomes the connoisseur’s aim. The connoisseur is taken over by the green-eyed thing, to say it once again. Read jealousy as greed, the connoisseur yearns to be the patron; green-eyes flare the same. Asking for more, the greedy displaces us, but not as a whole. First he targets the freak, questions what the freak is doing in this hole. “Get the hell out of here” says his inner voice. He whispers sweet words, but then comes an iron fist, banging on the freak’s door. He announces: “These freaks, aren’t they the criminals, threats, enemies? We have to get rid of them once and for all.” He demands stamps on ass, chips in arms, and says: “We can mop them out behind walls and barbed wires, outside the frontiers of our hall. Isn’t this the most secure and efficient of it all?” Gentrification, regeneration, sustainability is the catch phrase; the greedy is the connoisseur, the standard-bearer of this call. That green-eyed thing, it fixes the desiring gaze on them again.
The greedy is able to reconstruct the freak, searching to maximize his gain. There is the exotic, the gifted, the beautiful among the freak, why bother the slain. He takes the talent, exhibits the gift, embodies the beauty, the genie, whatever the freak has as for a peculiarity; this is his optimistic claim. “Enjoy the bridge… Join the dialogue… Cooperate…” he says, without any shame. When recruitment does not pay, he can start all over again. He institutes a brand new market; grins the green-eyed thing, for this is in its name. “The city does not want you, if you do not have market value.” says the green-eyed thing, it is the command. No room for mockery, criticism or comment. Those who dare to challenge this, grow a third eye, sixth finger, a tail or a horn. They become the freak, the threat, the enemy; the greedy is in a battle, but he is not forlorn. They have a file, wide open, seen with eyes so green. “Bio-measure out, gene out, heat out, but efficiently”, so says the decree. It is written in the greedy’s name, with the highest degree of security.
“The city does not want you, if you do not buy market value” adds the greedy; it makes the green-eyes gleam. “Consumption means acceptability, otherwise it is freaky” are the words that go with the stream. The stream pushes the freak to a distant playground, only there, he is let to live, go wild and scream. Yet he should not leave the playground, as the mess scattered outside these limits, contaminates the dream. The dream belongs to the green-eyed thing; without the freak in it, the city is secure, neat and clean. In matters of inclusion and exclusion, the patrons’ authority is absolute; the green-eyed thing is in vain. Do not ask whether the connoisseur is jealous of the freak; his home, his peculiarity, his existence is in line, for the sake of greed. The gods of the new and expanding market are now disguised as high-security, they demand obedience; otherwise you are the broken reed. They ask for sacrifice, day in, day out, this is how the green-eyes feed. Yet it wants new flavors after a point of saturation, meaning sacrifices in new terrains, in a more exotic breed. Urban-lousy, patrons-greedy, take jealousy as the base-line or the cream. Freakiness is in the eyes of the beholder; the beholder looks for new markets, it is not a daydream. The freaks become the new dragons, cyclops, monsters, creeps, dinosaurs of the old maps; the unknown is hand in hand with any unbearable thing. What are the freaks supposed to do then? We do not know, nor can we provide the ultimate cling. Keep in mind, there are escape routes for the unrecruitable, and they are on the brink.In the escape routes, let us not hesitate being lousier than the cityscape, and care to fall no prey to the greedy, the security, nor to become a decoration in the extended market scheme. Let us keep on becoming the dragons, cyclops, monsters, creeps, dinosaurs, freaks of our own maps, speak our own words independently, get together and then flee in different directions, taking pains to remain outside in every moment and in every scene.
URBAN LOUSY ”INDEPENDENT,DEPENDENT & PENDENT RESTIVAL“
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Sanat piyasası “ya benimsin, ya toprağın” diyordu, biz de kaçtık. Bir para babasına eş(ya) olmamak için kaçtık, sanat aşığı kurumsal yapılara metres olmamak için kaçtık. Yaptığımız Gezici Bienal başka bir aşk hikayesiydi. Istanbul’dan Berlin’e oradan Belgrad a konduk . Bir kentten bir kente konarken, tek kıskanılan biz değildik zaten.
Hilkat garibeleri, ucubeler vardı mesela. Çoğunluğu mahlukattan sayılır, kenara köşeye tıkılır, görünmesin diye etrafı sarılır, görünenin kafası taşla yarılırdı. Yeterince egzotikse bu hilkat garibesi, kenarda durmak için izinli sayılırdı. Birisi bi’bakıp çıkmak için para sayardı ya, sirkin panayırın köşesinde, ona müsamaha tanınırdı. Yeterince kuvvetliyse mahluk, arenaya salınırdı. Muktedirleri eğlendirdiği sürece, ucubeye yer ayrılırdı. Meraklısı kıskanır mıydı hilkat garibesini? Ucubede iktidar sahibine ait ne vardı?
Bugünün kentinin meraklısı da bi’bakıp çıkıp, kar etmenin peşinde. Bugünün kentinde de meraklısı, iktidar derdinde. Yeri geldiğinde, gözü garibenin durduğu yerin ta kendisinde. Bugünün kentinde büyük paralar araziden kazanılırken, iktidar derdindeki, hinoğlu hin, kıskançlığının kökü açgözlülüğünde.
Açgözlü, paraya para dememek için, herkesi yerinden etme işinde. Mesela o ucubenin ne işi var ki o kadar değerli yerde? “Gitsinler bunlar buradan” derken çeşitli yollara baş vurulmakta , gerektiğinde güç kullanılmakta, “… bunlar suçludur, düşmandır, tehdittir” de işin bahanesi olmakta. kıçına bir damga basıp, kolluna bir çip takıp, en etkin en ucuz yöntemle, uzağa atılması, duvarlar, teller ardına koyulması gerekmekte. Mekanın ancak öylece mutenalaşacağı, kentin ancak öylece yenileneceği ve hayatın da ancak öylece sürdürülebilir olacağı söylenmekte.
Aynı zamanda açgözlü, paraya para dememek için, onları yeniden inşa etmenin de derdinde. Varsa bir egzotiği, yeteneklisi, güzeli, onun da becerisini alıp satmanın, teşhire koymanın, özelliğini, güzelliğini kendi bedenine yamamanın peşinde. Kendi yarattğı frankeştayn ile köprü ve diyalog işinde. Zaten icap ettiğinde devşirme mahlukları itinayla yaratma, pazarlama, olmadı piyasasını bizzat kurma yeteneğinde.
Piyasada bir ederin yoksa, kent seni istememekte .Pazarlanamazlık üstü kuruntulu düzene gıcık gitme ihtimalin, altıncı parmağının, üçüncü gözünün, kuyruğunun, boynuzun yerine geçmekte. Fişlenme, şişlenme, kıçına damga, koluna bir çip, en ucuzundan, en etkininden defedilme, hapsedilme, defnedilme ihtimali senin önüne de gelmekte.
Kentin açgözlü yeni efendileri “güvenlik… güvenlik…” diye inlemekte. Piyasa tanrısı, her günü güvenlik bayramından sayıp, kurban istemekte.
Peki, eski haritaların yeni ejderhalarının, mahluklarının, dinozorlarının, ucubelerinin, hilkat garibelerinin ne yapması gerekmekte? Biz ne bilelim…
Bi’düşününce, kent berbat, efendileri kıskanç. Derdimiz kıskançlığa yüz vermeyip, kaçak noktaları kovalamak ya, kaçak noktamız, yeri geldiğinde kentten daha berbat olmaktan çekinmemekte, bu arada, piyasaya götü kaptırmamaya, güvenliğe kurban gitmemeye , sermayenin dekoratif unsuru olmamaya itina etmekte. Ne diyelim…
Kendi haritalarımızın mahlukları olmaya, kendi sözümüzü bağımsız söylemeye, bir araya gelmeye ve beş benzemez istikamete dağılmaya devam edelim.
URBAN LOUSY
http://www.circuscharivari.de/index.php?option=com_content&view=category&layout=blog&id=48&Itemid=76
” INDEPENDENT ,DEPENDENT & PENDENT RESTIVAL “
urbanlousy ( at ) gmail ( point ) com
Wednesday, February 25, 2009
URBAN JEALOUSY IN BELGRADE APPLICATION / VENUES 3-10 APRIL 2009
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URBAN JEALOUSY IN BELGRADE APPLICATION / VENUES
3-10 APRIL 2009
Urban Jealousy the 1st International Roaming Biennial of Tehran 3rd station: Belgrade, 3rd -10th of April 2009
Curated by Serhat Koksal and Amirali Ghasemi
Venues:
3rd April Magacin MKM, Kraljevića Marka 4 and 8 Exhbition / 3rd April Club Zica - Performances
4th April CZKD - Centar za Kulturnu Dekontaminaciju / Center for Cultural Decontamination, Exhibition/ PerformancesBirčaninova 21
8th April Dom Omladine - Screenings
9th April Elektrika Pancevo - Performances
Dead lines: 15th of March 2009
for sending the online application with Email biennialtehran@gmail.com ( Serhat Koksal ,Amirali Ghasemi )
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25th of March 2009 By this time packages should be received in Belgrade. .................
The 1st International Roaming Biennial of Tehran,Urban Jealousy
* Istanbul 30 May - 6 July 2008 * Berlin 20 Nov - 7 Dec. 2008 * Belgrade 03 Apr - 10 Apr. 2009
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* Biennial Tehran / Urban Jealousy in Istanbul 30 May - 6 July 2008
* Biennial Tehran / Urban Jealousy in Berlin 20 Nov - 7 Dec. 2008
* Biennial Tehran / Urban Jealousy in Belgrade 03 Apr - 10 Apr. 2009
The 1st International Roaming Biennial of Tehran ,Urban Jealousy International Roaming Biennial of Tehran, curated and organized by Serhat Koksal and Amirali Ghasemi ,chose Istanbul as its first station . The idea of this independent, low-budget exhibition started out both as a critique of theinternational "biennialization" and '' gentrification '' process.Featured works by artists from different countries from all around the world, selected from an open submission call, which has had an overwhelming response. Berlin is it's 2nd station.Belgrade will be 3th stop . VIDEOS/POSTERS/DRAWINGS/PHOTOGRAPHS/POSTCARDS/STICKERS/PERFORMANCES/MUSIK ....... biennialtehran@gmail.com ...........................................................BANT MAGAZINE INTERVIEW MAY 2008 bant magazinehttp://www.divshare.com/image/6427163-a0a
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“BIENNINAL TEHRAN” THAT IS INNOVATIVE , UNLIMITED AND INDEPENDENT WITH IT’S THEME OF “URBAN JEALOUSY” BELONGING TO IRANIAN ARTIST AMIRALI GHASEMI AND SERHAT KOKSAL WHO WE ALSO KNOW AS 2/5 BZ WILL START ON 30 MAY AT IT’S FIRST STOP KARAKOY HAFRIYAT ISTANBUL
We talked to Serhat Koksal and Amirali Ghasemi about the name “Tehran Biennial”, and the theme of the biennial “Urban Jealousy ” and the reason why it is being done in Istanbul ?What was the starting point of Biennial Tehran, how did this idea come into existence and how did you meet with Amirali?Serhat Koksal . I was in Tehran 12 years ago. also In 2001, I made the music of a documentary film named “Tehran 1930 ” that is widely shown in European TV channels at that time. I met some people from the art scene in Tehran.I and Amirali meet each other almost 2-3 years. We have heard our names previously but when he came to Istanbul two years ago for an exhibition with the posters he brought with him, I recognized that we have common points according to our understandings. First, he invited me to his “Deeper Depression” named exhibition that was held in 2006. I attend that exhibition with my video installation and later in 2007; he invited me to attend a project that is related to Berlin and Tehran. So I played and produced a audiovisual performance named “NO Goethe NO Hafez NO Bridge NO Biennial”. We had a thought of making a common study together since that time and he gave me some works of artists who lives there. They were successful works, but I did not have an idea of presenting Iranian artists’ works in Istanbul or somewhere else. I did not want to do this. This was something like Istanbul exhibitions with bad theme that held in European and the artists from Istanbul attend it… We were trying a theme that is related to our common problems about this common study. One day while I was in Tehran at that time I heard some artists who were making joke to each other by means of saying “we do not have an international biennial. Maybe we are lucky”. As a result of this, I told to Amirali “Ok, Amirali. The theme that we are searching must be Tehran Biennial, and we must hold this in Istanbul with the name of “Biennial Tehran”. Later I found out the Jealousy theme about Tehran. Amirali completed this with the word “Urban” and prepared a very good writing about the exhibition. Of course, attendees will not only be from Iran. Good job do not have a nationality.The main aim of the exhibition was globalizing biennial activities. Can we mention from this point of view of the exhibition?Serhat Koksal . I am conducting performances in various cities on the relationship of energy pipeline with cultural dialog enforcements, the relationship of international capital with establishing a bridge and its relationship with art and on branding studies of cities. So I believe that it is normal limiting big artistic cultural activities and doing all of them single type.I did some works including curator hegemony and these biennale subjects and also added humour in them since the beginning of 2000. And I wrote some writings in several magazines. Yes, this biennial also tries to ask that “why these biennials are made by ministry of cultures, big art foundations or by modern holdings?” Another aim is to question status difference in art world. Do not have less qualified people to make biennial? The real purpose will be constituted with its participantsAmirali, you are also founder of independent art gallery Parkingallery that operates in Tehran. We want to make interview with you in next years but could you please mention us about Parkingallery and its activities?Amirali.Ghasemi. Parkingallery is an independent design studio, project area and art gallery that started in Tehran in 1998. Our online gallery opened in 2002 and we have been preparing exhibition and panels since that time. Besides, we are working with alternative rock groups. Our real purpose is to concentrate on new medias, designs and photography and to support looking promising young artistsIn fact we do not have any idea about art in Iran. Western propaganda is one of the reasons of this. Could you please a little mention about art arena in Iran?Amirali.Ghasemi. Tahran art arena constitutes from different island. They do not talk with each other and do not have contacts. It seems as there is a competitive environment between them. But we want to consider ourselves like a boat in metaphor meaning. Of course, there are young Iranian artists who are known internationally. But most of them conducting works which are appropriate to market; simple politic art works or exotic ordinary works…And the propaganda machine is working very good and blocking the news regarding our country against typical clichés. I mean, even we received several applications from all over the world; I do not believe a miracle will be with Tehran Biennial. This biennial is mainly related with travelling, talking, reshaping the situations and developing new horizons. It is a little bit old, slow and serious for achieving the institutional biennale purposes.....................................
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THE SECOND STOP OF INTERNATIONAL ROAMING BIENNIAL IS BERLIN. THE BIENNIAL WILL BE HELD BETWEEN21-NOVEMBER-7 DECEMBER 2008 AND VARIOUS ACTIVITIOUS WILL BE HELD WITH THE NAME “URBAN STRUGGLE”IN ADDITION TO “URBAN JEALOUSY ”.Did you face with obligations for providing the independent and continues feature of the exhibition? What kind of points do you pay attention about this?Serhat Koksal We paid attention to hold the exhibition in independent places. We received several offers from all over the world for the exhibition but we did not accept the ones which are not appropriate to us because they included some positions which may protect independent feature of the exhibition. We are staying away from the activities related to cultural activities for branding the cities, and using the cultural activities ,decorations for economical purposes and sovereigns 's dialogue fetishism . I hope we will continue without mistaken.What is your Berlin Plan, do you have any plan regarding to places and activities?Serhat Koksal Thanks to our friends we are trying to find place for the exhibition and doing its introduction. In Berlin, there will be 5 exhibition places and some other activities will be held in other places. In addition to “Urban Jealousy ” theme of the exhibition, therewill be several panel and performances about “Urban Struggle” and “Cultural Relations”.Is our history combining us when comparing the cultural relationship between Turkey and Iran?Amirali Ghasemi As a person from outside I am not able to comment because I am not dominant both Turkish and Iranian politics. But I can say that Turkey and Iran share the same problems and hopes.Well, I can't really tell you if iran and turkey are coming close to eachother or going far from eachother, becasue I am not aware completly of cultural policies of the two countries But I see some positive potecial of understanding becasue Iran and Turkey in many levels are sharing similar dificulties and hopes due to their contemporay historyHow does Istanbul look like from Tehran about “Jealousy ” subject? Did you feel this aspect has changed during the time you are in Istanbul? we see jealousy as a positive action according to desires because of our failures.when we look at the tahran biennial, what was our failures that reflect jealousy?Amirali.Ghasemi At the 1st glance Iranians might look kind of jealousy when considering Istanbul, this also includes me, during my visits I saw more opportunities for art producers and cultural activist, but now may be I can understand that I was wrong to some degree, 1st of all, in Istanbul, like many other cities in the region, there more and more independent art spaces are being invaded by art market and downgraded to commercial / established galleries which are less interested in experimental practices and because of their involvement in the system of cultural mega-project and main stream waves they can't develop their critical discourse and their voice dissolves in the crowd , this process with a bit delay is happening in Tehran too,in another hand not only because of the systematic ideologic propaganda and elitist state cultural monopoly but in result of emerging a new sophisticated art market and huge investments in the small Arab states on the southern shores of the Persian gulf. http://vimeo.com/2695782